Podcast, Schedule

Revised Reading & Release Schedule

Hello All,

As you may have noticed, our reading schedule and corresponding episode release dates have changed somewhat. Here is a newly revised schedule that reflects our current plan.


Episode Air Date Chapters
10 September 2017 1-3
24 September 2017 4-6
8 October 2017 7-9
22 October 2017 Listener Feedback Ep
29 October 2017 10-12
12 November 2017 13-15
26 November 2017 TV Adaptation Discussion
10 December 2017 16-18
24 December 2017 19-21
31 December 2017 22-24
14 January 2018 25-27
28 January 2018 28-30
11 February 2018 31-33
25 February 2018 34-36
11 March 2018 37-39
25 March 2018 40-End
8 April 2018 ADOW Wrap Up

Please note that the December release dates are subject to change.

We’ve really enjoyed reading A Discovery of Witches with you all, as well as all of the great discussion we’ve had with you so far. Looking forward to much, much more!


Podcast, Uncategorized

Chamomile & Clove – Episode 6 – On Love and Phlebotomy

mariam-soliman-267271Mariam Soliman

Thanks to everyone for tolerating our wee publishing hiccup – Cait didn’t expect to get quite so ill over the weekend. Nevertheless, without further ado, we present Episode 6 of Chamomile & Clove – On Love and Phlebotomy. Let us know if you have any difficulty downloading the episode through iTunes, or Stitcher. Thanks!

Download the episode here.




Cait and Jen



Real Time Reading, Uncategorized

Real-Time Reading – 30-31 October – Chapters 41-43

elijah-o-donell-424398.jpgElijah O’Donell

Chapter 41

“Under Marcus’s leadership.” Matthew raised his half-full wineglass. “To Marcus, Nathaniel, and Hamish. Honor and long life.” 

In the Real-Time Reading Companion, Deb reveals that the soundtrack for Chapter 41 is Emmylou Harris’s “The Pearl.”

The lyrics are as follows:

O the dragons are gonna fly tonight
They’re circling low and inside tonight
It’s another round in the losing fight
Out along the great divide tonight

We are aging soldiers in an ancient war
Seeking out some half remembered shore
We drink our fill and still we thirst for more
Asking if there’s no heaven what is this hunger for?

Our path is worn our feet are poorly shod
We lift up our prayer against the odds
And fear the silence is the voice of God

And we cry Allelujah Allelujah
We cry Allelujah

Sorrow is constant and the joys are brief
The seasons come and bring no sweet relief
Time is a brutal but a careless theif
Who takes our lot but leaves behind the grief

It is the heart that kills us in the end
Just one more old broken bone that cannot mend
As it was now and ever shall be amen

And we cry Allelujah Allelujah
We cry Allelujah

So there’ll be no guiding light for you and me
We are not sailors lost out on the sea
We were always headed toward eternity
Hoping for a glimpse of Gaililee

Like falling stars from the universe we are hurled
Down through the long loneliness of the world
Until we behold the pain become the pearl

Cryin? Allelujah Allelujah
We cry Allelujah

And we cry Allelujah Allelujah
We cry Allelujah

I can’t actually seems to track down the “On This Day” post for 30 October, but I’d be deeply in your debt if you could pass it on.

Chapter 42

“My mother used to wear it all the time,” Matthew said, picking it up between his thumb and index finger. “She called it her scribble ring because she could write on glass with the point of the diamond.” 

In Deb’s post for Chapter 42, she talks about how she doesn’t like to make things up and prefers instead to draw from real-life objects when writing about her characters. She relates that she gets tons of reader questions about Ysabeau’s “scribble” ring. If you’re so inclined, you can buy a copy here.

The ring depicted in the post is a gimmal/gimmel ring from the collection of the Victoria and Albert Museum in London. They are so called because the Latin word for twin is gemellus.


The rings became popular in the 16th and 17th centuries and were often used as betrothal rings: wear one part of the ring at engagement, another after your ceremony. There are several fine specimens of ancient gimme rings in the Zucker collection in Baltimore. Many of the rings have traditional motifs, like hearts and hands, as symbols of love and fidelity.


Another scent–spicy and sweet–joined with the lavender, and I saw a tree laden with heavy, golden fruit. 

Quince is a relative of both the apple and the pear and bears some similarity to both. It’s a hardy tree, flourishing in many climates despite its origins in Afghanistan and Iran. In ancient times, it was associated with the goddess Aphrodite. They’re difficult to eat raw–hard and very tart–but I happen to love them. Image result for quince pictures

Curious about quince? Here’s a few things to get you started using them:

Quince: The Tough Fall Fruit With a Secret Reward 

Martha Stewart.com: Quince Recipes

Chapter 43

She hunters makes; and of that substance hounds

Whose mouths deafe heaven, and furrow earth with wounds,

And marvaile not a Nimphe so rich in grace, 

To hounds rude pursuits should be given in chase.

The verse really does exist – it comes from George Chapman’s “Shadow of Night.” The poem – published in 1594 – is Chapman’s earliest significant work of verse.7386975594_fe86594f39_b It treats the “theme of inspired melancholy,” a state of “deep and searching thought.”


For us, of course, it summons visions of Diana, the Goddess, and   Matthew’s chess set.

With Matthew and Diana safely in the 16th century, our 2017 Real-Time Reading of A Discovery of Witches comes to a close. The Daemons cover Chapters 39-43 in Take 24!; they’ll start their chapter discussions for Shadow of Night very, very soon.

Thank you for joining me for this incredible journey; it’s been great fun and I can’t wait to see what you all have to say about the chapters as we approach them again during our discussions.

If you have comments, questions, concerns, etc., please feel free to get in touch via @chamomilenclove on Twitter or by e-mail at chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com. We couldn’t ask for a better, kinder, smarter, more enthusiastic audience; you make this little podcaster’s heart sing.

Happy Halloween, happy Samhain, and thank you for playing along with this year’s real-time reading.






Episode 5 – “Friends” 


It’s a rainy autumn morning in New York, which means that Cait just wants to curl up with coffee and a book in her soft pants. Because she got rather festive last night, she might also rest her eyes and enjoy a podcast. You should take her advice. 

In “Friends,” Jen and Cait talk about Chapters 10-12 of ADOW. Enjoy! 

Download the episode here!

Cait and Jen

Real Time Reading, Uncategorized

Real-Time Reading – 29 October – Chapter 40

aaron-burden-36648Aaron Burden

Chapter 40

“What do you think?” Sophie asked, turning the pumpkin. It had the hollow eyes, arched eyebrows, and gaping mouth of all Halloween pumpkins, but she had transformed the usual features into something remarkable. 

Once upon a time, when the tradition of carving vegetables on All Hallow’s Eve began, the ancient Celts cut up turnips rather than pumpkins. The tradition wards off evil spirits. There’s an old Irish story about Stingy Jack, a man who tricked the Devil and wasn’t allowed into either heaven or hell upon death. Instead, he roamed the earth forever with an ember burning in a carved-out turnip. He thus became Jack o’ the Lantern.

“Smallpox?” They’d stopped giving smallpox vaccines to schoolchildren a few years before I was born. That meant Sophie and Nathanial hadn’t been immunized, either.

Smallpox is an ancient disease–there are apparently traces of a smallpox-like rash on mummies who died 3000 years ago–which spread across the globe with human trade and travel. Three out of every ten people who contracted the disease died; those who survived had severe scars.

As Matthew tells Diana, the vaccine for smallpox was developed by Edward Jenner, who noted that milkmaids who had been exposed to cowpox did not get smallpox after being exposed to the disease. In 1959, the World Health Organization began a global campaign to eradicate smallpox. It didn’t succeed until 1977; it required thousands of high-quality, free vaccines and the cooperation of thousands of communities. The CDC profiled the two last sufferers of smallpox, one in Asia and one in Africa. If you care to read further, this National Geographic article has excellent historical information on smallpox and a selection of photographs.

The hop barn still held the sweet aroma of long-ago harvests.

Once upon a time, upstate New York had a thriving hops industry. Hops are one of the key ingredients in brewing beer and require very specific growing conditions to thrive. In 1855, New York state grew over three million pounds of hops. Then, a combination of deadly fungus and Prohibition destroyed the industry and left the state’s hop barns standing empty. In the present day, American hops are grown primarily in the Pacific Northwest. LI_Hops_9_15

Proper hop barns have a special shape to encourage the drying of hops, which grow in long vines. There are still a couple of farmers trying to make a go of hop farming in New York; the crop is lucrative, and the world’s supply is limited.

“We’re a proper conventicle now, Sarah,” Sophie observed as she reached for the pyramid of freshly baked cookies on the kitchen island. 

The word “conventicle” emerged in fifteenth and sixteenth century England to describe groups of dissenters who met in secret to protest the acts of Parliament that forced people to attend the Church of England. There are also historical conventicles on Scotland, Finland, Germany, and the United States.

“Tiger, tiger, burning bright / In the forests of the night,” Hamish said, quoting William Blake. 

In 1794, William Blake wrote “The Tyger,” a poem said to represent the “duality between aesthetic beauty and primal ferocity.” Blake’s poetry explores duality and contrast as a means of understanding humanity. Should you be interested, there’s some analysis of the poem here.

You can find Deb’s post on Chapter 40 here. The Daemons’ recently-published episode on Chapters 39-43 is here.

See you tomorrow!